Yes or No: Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake 274 comments
Jarden Plastic Solutions plant (formerly Oval Wood Dish), Tupper Lake, 2008
A Wal-Mart — in Tupper Lake, New York? Recent news reports indicate that Tupper Lake’s Mayor has been in contact with the retail chain Wal-Mart asking them to consider locating in the Village of Tupper Lake. This invitation follows the May 2008 closing of Jarden Plastic Solutions’ 15-acre plant that employed 70 people (formerly the home of Oval Wood Dish).
Nigro Companies, a Colonie based developer specializing in shopping centers, has been interested in the property for some time. If Nigro Companies does purchase the plant, Wal-Mart may move in.
There is already a Wal-Mart Superstore is in Ticonderoga, N.Y., inside the Blue Line. Wal-Mart has attempted and failed to locate in the northern part of the Adirondack Park twice. Public opposition kept the large chain out of Lake Placid, N.Y. in 1994 and Saranac Lake, N.Y. in 2006.
Advocates believe a large discount store could serve customers from as far as 40 miles away. Residents of some Adirondack communities currently drive over an hour to places like Plattsburgh, Queensbury and Malone, N.Y. to shop for groceries and other necessities.
Construction and operation of a large store could create new jobs for area residents. Wal-Mart is the largest private employer in the United States, employing roughly 1.4 million people.
Opponents argue that Wal-Mart, or any big-box store, has no place in the Adirondack Park. They are concerned that a large retail store will hurt small main street businesses. In addition, some contend that Wal-Mart fails to provide substantial wages and health care benefits to employees. Many simply see these huge stores as unsightly.
Do you think Wal-Mart should be allowed in Tupper Lake?
Inside the Blue Line is horrible!!!
Be carefull with what you let into your back yard adirondack folk
No, the beauty of the Adirondack Park are the small family run stores and industries that do not mare the landscape.
Tupper dont need no
Wal-Mart.
I do not think you should because it will
1 make the adirondacks not as pretty
2 get less bears and wildlife creatures
3 it will put out alot of small stores out of business
4 it will ruin the adirondacks
1- one store will make the park ugly?
2- less bears, because of one walmart?
(have you been to Tupper Lake?)
3- a lot of small business? ( again have you been to Tupper Lake)
4- ruin the Adirondacks? GET A LIFE PEOPLE ITS ONLY A STORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No because it would hurt local buisnesses,and it just doesn’t look right.
NO, a Walmart in this area would be a detriment to the struggling store and shop owners. It is difficult enough for these merchants to stay in business, why bring in a multi billion dollar corporation?
We have to drive 37 miles to Plattsburgh for major shopping and we are glad to do it to keep our hamlet the way it is.
I say “no” to a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake!!!!!
NO, NO, NO!!!!
They do not belong here in the AdK
I think that they should not build it because they can use the land for a different use.
I dont think that a wal-mart is necessary. The store has its advantages. Wow saving you a few dollars. The store draws other stores into the area which is a plus to some people but to other family owned stores….. its another struggle to stay in business. No to wal-mart for one main reason. Once its built, the development monster has beed started and now won’t be able to be stopped. look at Heidelberg, Pa. once was a small race track for the local piston heads and is now a huge shopping center……. Goodluck. :-/
yes and no but more on the no side because it ruins the adriondacks rustic look
I don’t [think] they should put a Wal-Mart there
I spend my summer vacations in the Adirondacks each year. I would regret the arrival of a “big box” like Walmart. Sprawl is always a bad influence on a community, but it is unthinkable in the Adirondacks. I can’t imagine how much the park would be changed if this awful precedent were allowed.
I think it wouldn’t be so good for a big box store to end up in the Adirondacks. I always consider the Adirondacks to be a place for wilderness rather than development.
Thomas Withiam
age 10
I would rather see smaller merchants and encourage local growth than a big box store with no real local interest.
I think Wal-Mart should be allowed in Tupper lake.
No, we would not favor a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake and the Adirondack Park!
Stop the Walmart spralll
No, it will put all the local businesses out of business. Their livelihoods will be in jeopardy. There are plenty of Walmarts in the bigger cities.
What local business. if you live in tupper it would great not to travil 90 miles with gas over $40
No, Walmart is the root of all evil. First it’s a Walmart, then a McDonalds, then a mini mall, then a super mall. It is just the first in a step of bringing the pollution and corruption of a busy city to the Adirondacks. The Adirondacks is known for it’s natural feel, it’s connections to it’s roots, and it’s unique and interesting towns, museums, and shops. Bringing in this commercialized scum would only ruin it. No.
There actually is a McDonald’s and several “mini-malls” currently in Tupper Lake. I would be in support of a Wal-Mart, or a Target, if it meant not having to drive to Plattsburgh or Malone for major shopping. As wonderful as it is to be a life-long resident of the Adirondacks, it can be rather inconvenient at times. A store in town with more options could be wonderful addition.
no to walmart. they suck the life out of mom & pop shops and then you are trapped into getting only what they offer. mom & pop shops are the heart and soul of the adirondacks and it needs to be left as is. for once in our life, lets let history stay as it is instead of always trying to suburbanize everything. let the wilderness stay as wilderness!!
no they hurt little businesses.
This is an issue for the local citizens to decide. We should not impose our views on them.
There should be no Wal-Marts anywhere!
No, Wal-Mart has no place in this pristene enviroment.
yes,much needed
It is up to the locals to decide what they want for their comminity. Not everyone cares for Wal Mart but then again folks need jobs. Whether it will hurt other businesses is a hard question to answer. But it should be the locals who decie the issue.
yes
NO!
sure that would be beificial for the community but what would be left of the adirondacks after all the stores move in.
NO WAY.
I think the decision has to be made by the year round residents of the park. I don’t think it is fair if summer people impose their wish for a wilderness experience on people who live and work here all year round. For me, I dislike Walmart in any community, but the days of the single, family stores seem to be unrecoverable and we have to be realisitic.
I don’t know. Having grown up in the Adirondacks I know how hard and expensive it is to try to get somewhere to buy the things you need. However, the idea of a Wal-Mart in the Adirondacks is pretty hard to swallow. I wish that there were more jobs of different types to allow more people to work in the area. Especially in the medical fields since to the best of my knowledge Hamilton County still doesn’t have a DOCTOR! Maybe that is the area we should be working toward and jobs would come from that. Any way you look at it the young people need to have jobs to stay here. Otherwise soon we will be a community of only old people and weekend residents.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Walmart would take away from the wonderful beauty of Tupper Lake.
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are already to many Walmarts.
NO!!!!!!! There are some places that just should not have a Walmart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of couse not!!!!!!! No one needs a walmart more than the lake. Think of all the children’s vacations you’d ruin!!!!!!!!
No way walmart takes away from the beauty of Tupper Lake.
I dont think you should build a walmart bacause you will be cutting down animals homes
Walmart does not belong in an area such as Tupper Lake. Let’s keep this area untouched by such a store.
Please keep big box stores, especially Wal-Mart out of the park. The park is supposed to be a place of a simpler time, so don’t ruin it with so called “progess” of having big box stores.
first of all, there is not enough people to support a wal-mart. second of all, if you did build a wal-mart: how many of the people would actually shop there; most people would try to boycot it because the company is disrupting the whole “nature” theme.
I say no.
People may say they will boycott it but they wouldnt there have been several studies to prove this theory. THey may try to go at night so there neighbors dont see them but they will be shopping there….Besides at some of the outrageous prices on items at “local” markets give me a break think about the economy that would be enhanced by this
NO,
Local businesses are a fragile group and cannot withstand the overwhelming competition of a giant like Wal-Mart
Yes. I heard that Wal-Mart can have local store owners sell from inside of Wal-Mart. Local store owners should bargain with them.
NO IF THEY PUT WALMART IN TUPPER LAKE IT WILL TAKE AWAY ANIMAL HABITAT
Wal MArt would serve the needs of the greater community. It would be a worthwhile addition.
No Way!
We should not have a wal mart because workers are paid minimuum wage and there is no health benifits it is a horrible company
No. It is more fun having the smaller stores. People coming up from down from this area can bring what they want from there. Live simply
We need to keep the Adirondacks as clean as possible. Putting a Wal-Mart there will not help.
Don’t put a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because it would take up a lot of space from the animals.
Please don’t build a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because it would not be consistent with the Adirondack Park environment. It would be like putting a Home Depot in Yellowstone - it simply doesn’t belong.
There was the same opposition to Wal-Mart in Watkins Glen NY, Schuyler County because of the stores location on the south end of Seneca Lake. The project was finally approved a few years ago and the store was built. The store has improved business traffic in area mom and pop businesses and stores not closed them. It is also very helpful to the thousands of seasonal residents and tourists who shop in Watkins Glen instead of going to Elmira, Corning and Ithaca when they stay at their cottages. Year round residents find the store helpful in the winter season because they don’t have to travel the icy roads in winter and save money on gas. Schuyler is one of the poorest counties in New York State so any savings are helpful to residents. Go for it Tupper Lake.
Yes, but only if the Wal-Mart doesn’t look like every other Wal-Mart. If the designers of the ‘big box store’ were to design it so that it does not take up as much land and look as awful as most Wal-Marts, it might work. For some, especially now that gas is so expensive, driving the hour to Wal-Mart is too much. Having one close to the center of the Adirondacks could be quite advantageous.
Not a NECESSARY business, hardly even a luxury. Keep the Adirondacks as free of commercialism as possible and continue to espouse small businesses instead.
no please.
Yes we need a wal-mart to buy cheaper stuff! yah
no, because i think that should stay in the city
Yes
No — enough WalMarts already.
Yes Walmart! We need commerce and people need JOBS! especially my husband who was laid off work after over 18 YEARS of service to Jarden Plastics, formerly OWD.
Absolutely not!!!
We have a Wal-Mart in our area and it has brought nothing but negative results. The area is not maintained and has become a real eyesore. Our local police have to respond to calls there almost daily. The argument that Wal-Mart brings jobs is not valid. The jobs they create are very low paying and the employees get exploited. Bringing in WalMart is bad enough, but letting Nigro get a foothold in the area is a fatal mistake. He paves everything in site and has no concern for the envrionment, history, etc. (example, tearing down a 200 year old building that locals wanted saved and moved so he could put in a Target store in East Greenbush.) Stick to your guns - keep them both out. The Adirondacks are far too valuable to all of us.
don’t build a wal mart. they are corrupt. they use cheap labor in asia and give them no money to work with. this also contributes to the measly pay of their employees. they need to stop building them and letting them take over the world. just like in wall-e.
Isn’t everything made in Asia nowadays? They have a McDonald’s that pays minimum wage. I think that they should have at least one store that they could get groceries without having to travel long distances.
Wal-Mart should never be allowed to open a store in Tupper Lake. Although it may seem ridiculous in today’s modern age, the whole point of the Adirondack Park is to provide a relaxing getaway from the hustle and bustle of the outside world. For all of the year-round inhabitants, Wal-Mart would take away from the local economy and charm. Little businesses thrive in towns like Tupper Lake, and having a gigantic superstore will only hurt their livelihood. For the sake of the wilderness and ambience of the Adirondacks, do not let Wal-Mart come.
heck yes because we need something up here fast other wise we all move out because as time moves on we hold still we also need better cell phone contection…
i think walmart is awesome
Your mayor should read “Nickel and Dimed in America”. In it, he will learn exactly how Walmart treats its employees. DON’T do it. Once the genie is out of the bottle…
no, don’t ruin this beautiful place with a wal-mart.
NO>>>NO>>>NO! Having watched WalMart take over my home area, I am very much against this and for small, local businesses.
No
Please do not ruin the already critical economy by putting in a Wal mart!
We woould love to shop locally but at our current local shops and inns.
Thank you
I think that a walmart store would ruin the population of the awesome animals in this area of living.
so reconsider this question will ya?
its not like your dying of lack of walmart in the area are you?
I dont think so…just drive to the nearest city (Ticonderoga, N.Y for example)
-Thank you :]
Yes, I feel the residents of the Adirondacks need a larger facility to buy food, house supplies and the like.
We have a Wal-Mart in our town and it is killing our downtown. They only want to build new. They are not interested in renovating older existing structures. As far as jobs are concerned they are relatively few in number and low paying in nature. Tell your mayor to think long and hard before he opens this Pandora’s box. I set on the town board that considered the Wal-Mart. You will lose your small town identity to this corpoate giant.
As a landscape architect and planner, I believe current events are showing us that putting our eggs in the ‘one size fits all’ basket has many inherent risks. I think it is far more important to develop new industries that might be based on sustainable resources and new technologies than retail based jobs dependent on the vagaries of the global economy. Also, with higher gas prices it is going to be difficult for local people to afford to indulge in recreational shopping.
What Tupper needs is a good quality grocery store; if Wal-Mart had a model that was a smaller footprint I think it Might be okay. We have to be realistic about meeting the needs of local residents. I just hate to see job creation hung solely on the banner of Wal-Mart.
I dislike Walmart, and don’t like to see them move into any community, but I also would not be able to drive 30+ miles to shop for neccessities. The community needs to decide for themselves. Tupper Lake is their home. The rest of us are just visitors.
Wal Mart has a unfriendly attitude to both host communities and employees. They are not model citizens for a new greener future. We will not patronize such stores and will lament the damage such a venture will do to the small businesses and warm community of Tupper Lake. Good luck in keeping this wart from your shorelines.
No, there shouldn’t be a wal-mart where ever they can put one. It is nice to know that there isn’t always a big store right near you. It makes you feel more alive.
The Adirondack Park should be kept free of “big-box” stores.
There is no need to add comercial material to the adirondaks.
I am not in support of Wal-Mart moving into Tupper Lake however one must consider the employment needs of the community.
YES, LP was stupid not to get it.
NO Wal*Mart in Tupper Lake
yes. This would be a great opportunity to create jobs for residences in tupper lake, to help their economy.
A well designed Wal- Mart would be more attractive than a palstics plant. It wouldprovide the needs of the area and would conserve fuel for many of the residents who would have to drive distances for there needs. More jobs in the area without traveling great distances wouldn’t hurt either.
Absolutely not, THe adirondacks need to stay the way they are. Arn’t we supposed to be preserving The area?
NO!!! The Adirondacks need to be preserved for the wildlife and history they have. It is one of the few places I believe should not be modernized. NO WAL-MART
Wal Mart tends to destroy competition and force suppliers to cut costs beyond responsible operation (in light of the environment and wages)
Avoid such a scenario.
It may be nice to have a wal-Mart to some people if they have never been to one or have and liked it but some people may desegree and not want to have one i think the town should vote on it.
No I do not think that there should be a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because of all of the wildlife. If there is a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake the wildlife populations will decrease and soon our children and their children will never see some of the wildlife that have become extinct. Also if there is a Wal-Mart on Tupper Lake, it will produce even more polution and then even more animal species will become extinct! NO WAL-MART ON TUPPER LAKE!
No, because even though you get your supplies there, it is ruining animals homes. They are selling paper towels and paper. It’s making it hard for animals to live!
No I do not think that there should be a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because there is already a super Wal -Mart in Ticonderoga
NO, I do not think there should be a Wal Mart in Tupper Lake. It will take away from the small business people. For those looking for employment, the town should be looking to recruit (replace) another industry, not a large retail store. This ( a large retail store) would be counter productive for all in the long run. It may afford some people jobs; only to cost others (the small retailers) their jobs, as well as change the character and integrity inside the blue line
I’ve been visiting Tupper Lake with my family since I was a small child, and one of the things I always appreciated was how much Tupper Lake wasn’t infested with chain markets. If you want Starbucks, and name brand shopping, one can easily get to Lake Placid in a hop a skip and a jump.
I sincerly believe that placing a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake would destroy the pure and natural integrity of the village.
Thank you for taking the people’s feelings on the matter into consideration, and I truly hope you will eventually chose not to allow a Wal-Mart to be placed in Tupper Lake.
Sincerly,
Carolyn Dommreis
No to a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake! Please leave the area as rustic as it is, and allow the smaller stores already in existence to stay in business.
Please no Wal-Marts here in a “wilderness!” I have seen the city and we do not need its influences here.
there should be because people could have more jobs and opportunities
Walmart stores have gotten more huge. A walmart store in tupper lake would bring a lot of extra traffic to the area. They tend to take away from the quaintness and simplicity that people have come to love in the adirondacks
i think tht walmart shouldnt be in tupper lake because they will become more “new-aged” and we wont be able to se how differnet our past was !!
NO WAL-MART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please do not let Wal-Mart move in. This would really hurt the area more than help it!
no they should keep to there old ways
Spend the time/energy on making a potential walmart something that will work for the environment and the area. That’s the best use of your time.
Absolutely not - it’s a corrupt company who takes advantage of its workers.
NO!
yes
I urge Tupper lake NOT to permit the development of a Wal-Mart. The chain’s tendency towards urban sprawl is incompatible with the Adirondack Park idea. By its very nature Wal-mart encourages sprawl.
JB
YES WE SHOULD HAVE ONE.
NO WAL-MART,LET’S KEEP THIS AREA PRISTENE.I ENJOY THE WILDERNESS AND QUANT SMALL TOWNS IN THE MOUNTAINS.
No Wal-Mart
although many people in this region travel a far distance to shop there is no need for a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake. The store will take away from local businesses and has a large chance of failing as there two stores in this region have. The way I see it people who live her are more likely to travel to plattsburgh and Queensbury becuase it is “a city” and their doctors are there. Why would people travel to Tupper Lake to go to Wal-Mart when the biggest attraction there is MacDonalds. If Wal-Mart has been voted down in Lake Placid and Saranac Lake why would people want one in Tupper Lake a less busy and almost stagnant town? I am a summer resident in Blue Mountain Lake and I firmly believe that putting a Wal-Mart would have the same affect as putting one in Blue Mountain, pointless.
no
Wal-Mart is a great way to destroy local business and to export wealth to corporate headquarters in Arkansas.
No
We need to preserve this park and what it stands for.
Walmart should not only be allowed in Tupper Lake, it should be encouraged.
No Walmart in Tupper lake. Walmart is not good for local buisness. Local business is what supports thew local area, not Walmart.
i believe that there should be a wal-mart in tupper lake
No! We do not need an ugly unsightly Wal-Mart to steal from the local merchants with the excuse that they will provide jobs to the locals. Do not allow this to happen!
NO because it will take away some of the beauty of the adirondacks and it`s a national park.
NO its a national park for gods sake.
A Wal Mart in Tupper Lake would not be less driving time for me. But I hate Wal Mart because it hurts small local businesses that carry unique items that you can’t find at Wal Mart. I would vote No.
It really all depends. There are already a lot of Wal-Marts and stores in New York, which use a lot of energy. If this new Wal-Mart were to only use “green” energy, then it would be a better idea.
NO Walmart!
Keep the Adirondacks unique! NO WALMART!
no
no! we can never get back what we destroy!!
I’ve summered in the Adirondacks since a small child. I’ve always been thankful for the local businesses in the region… Most live and own right here - and thus return thier earnings back to the local economy. There is simply no end to the damage a large store like this does to the local people and in the end tourism - First local business will not be able to compete with a conglomerate that buys on the scale of a big box store. The small boutique owners that add so much charm and heritage will be squashed. But more importantly the dollars spent in store’s like these won’t stay in the community. The jobs created will be meager clerk cashier “mcjobs” - and the stores themselves are unsightly. Americans must return to Teddy Roosevelt’s courage in the face of the robber barons and monopolies of that time… We are being attacked by this swindol of “low low” prices — the long term consequences of poor economic conservation would be devistating. Americans must regain courage to see that long term planning and local small business support is the backbone of a strong US economy.
Please, no!!! That would be hideous.
Yes because then if i was campin than i could just go there instead of going to a whole bunch of other stores and it would save on gas!
no. it will ruin the area
There is a current effort to build a cooperative type of store in Saranac Lake, which would supply unmet needs while not threatening local businesses or exploiting employees, for which Wal-Mart, unfortunately, has been known.
Wal-Mart has come to symbolize what is “bad” about the “big bad outside” world, but to many, if not most year-round residents, quality products at affordable prices are an essential need, which Wal-Mart’s efficiencies of scale and purchasing power can offer. Although local merchants feel threatened by the competition, their customers by and large would rather have the prices and convenience and selection that the traditional small-town merchant simply has not offered them.
Great idea……we love walmart!
yes, my daughter Kathryn and I love to shop at the Walmart. Can’t wait for you to open!! See ya at the Walmart.
There should not be a walmart because it would destroy the natural beauty of the Mountain Range.
I will soon be moving to Schroon Lake to be a year-round resident and business owner. I have been spending summers in the Adirondack Park at Lake Chateaugay since 1974. I love the lifestyle of the Adirondacks, not filled with rushing from place to place as here in the suburbs of Northern Virginia. I am happy in the summers to make the once amonth trips to a larger town for shopping and errands. If you bring a monster store in, you will force local businesses who survive on vacationers and local sales to compete in a way they would not be able to afford to do and you will force them out of business. Once this store has a foothold in one location, residents will have a harder time legally not allowing them in other locations within the the blue line no matter what the super store says now. I like shopping at WalMart as much as the next person but what it will do to the local economy will be irreversible. Not to mention the look of the chains and superstores forcing themselves in on the pictureque main streets that those from urban areas come to the Adirondacks to leave behind. I hope you will include my comments even though I am not yet a resident, as this place is so dear to my heart.
no to the store
yes. everywhere needs a wal- mart
I say no to walmart, because it could ruin a beautiful place such as Tupper Lake, thank you for your time.
NO NO NO NO NO NO!! Walmart is not good for local business. Tupper Lake will lose its local character.
Hell yeah. Evey town should have a Walmart!
Enough is Enough. Keep the wilderness!
Yes, definitely on the Wal-Mart! We need somewhere to shop less than 90 miles away.
YES
no
No please, don’t loose the beauty of the countryside
NO WAY There are entirely to many Wal Marts now
There should not be a walmart in Tupper Lake, there are so many small businesses that will be comprimised, save the small companies
Will destroy small local businesses, and therefore, the charm of the Adirondacks
no walmart all they do is run out the little stores that alrady have been there serving the people for lots of year. These little stores know the people by name and walmart wont and wont care to know
NO to Walmart!!
NO - Hell NO
Wal-Mart is a labor disaster whose slogan “live better” is an ironic echo of the Teamster slogan “live better, work union.” Wal-Mart is good for no one~not its own workers or the small stores it displaces. We must pause and rethink our desire for mounds of cheap clothes and cheap goods which we quickly discard so that we can go to Wal-Mart and acquire more of the same sometimes cruelly produced goods.
Yes, it would sure be convenient and with today’s high gas prices save a lot of money. Tupper Lake could sure use the jobs and would be a great boost for it’s economy.
It is hard to say if a Walmart should locate here. The biggest problem is driving so far to get the things that you need. It is even harder for a single mom with children and one who is disable. I drive 45 minutes to get to a Walmart.
I think allowing a Wal-Mart to be built in this area would not only hurt small businesses it would cause many of them to close. When you invite WalMart’s and others like it, you lose the relationship of customer and owner. The store owners in my expierience do more than just provide goods for the community. In some cases they provide a few jobs, they support community activities like raffles, baseball teams. They take pride in their communites unlike a large chain would.
I don’t think it’s a good idea .
No. This would ruin small businesses and will ruin the community’s character.
There are better corporate neighbors to serve the shopping needs of the community. Choose between convenience and the small businesses of your neighbors. Wal-mart will run them out of business.
leave walmart out of the woods
WalMart stores are taking over our small business communities. We need to stop the monopoly and return to good small town living!
No WalMart! I prefer to shop in small locally owned shops. Support our local business owners, not large monopolies such as the WalMart company.
NO, NO, NO MORE WALMARTS!
No WalMart!
Keep Wal-Mart out.
no wal-mart
no way!!!!!!!
No!
Wal-Mart will not harm small main street businesses. Springville, New York has grown so much since the Wal-Mart store opened there. There are new malls, filled to capacity there, the smaller shops on Main Street are thriving and even Tops built a brand new store right up the road from Wal-Mart, so people can’t blame Wal-Mart for putting the smaller businesses out of business. It is the people that don’t shop at the smaller businesses that put them out. If I lived in the area of Tupper Lake, and believe me, I would love to, I would welcome Wal-Mart. My family has camped in the Adirondacks for years and remember shopping at Ames. What a shock that was to see closed. Then when Tops bought out Grand Union. That was a disaster right from the beginning. Grand Union was a great store. Once we found out that Tops owned it, we took our business to the A&P. Unfortunately, A&P closed as well, then Tops up and left the area. Typical of that chain.
So, people of Tupper Lake, don’t fight Wal-Mart. It isn’t as bad as some folks believe.
YES. even though they treat their employees badly, there is no place for local resiedents to shop, and the jobs are desparately needed.
The level of need of the residents for both jobs and a place to obtain necessities is so high that I am in favor of a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake (Even though I personally boycott Wal-Mart for their labor practices).
The Adironcks are already too threatened by dramatic increased use in the last 50 years. A Wal-Mart will additionally encourage increased use by adding city convenience to visitors and tourists. -
We were warned about overuse and improper use of the Aditondacks around 1850 - listen.
Sincerely,
Bruce
To whom it may concern,
Why is it that a big multi-million dollar company is always trying to take over the quiet small towns? I live in a town in upstate New York close to Lake Ontario, Walmart is trying to pull the same deal. The locals are saying ” NO ” because of the bad elements it may bring in from the inner city and ruin the peaceful neighborhood. Same goes for Tupper Lake!!! I have been going up to the Adirondacks for the last 10 years to vacation during the summer and fall, and the one thing I love is the small unique stores that make up what is most beautiful about the Adirondacks. However, having a store like that would be beneficial for nearby locals that can’t afford the gas or the occasional family vacationing at a campground. If anything I strongly think Walmart should stay out of the Adironacks!! What about putting a WEGMANS in that plaza???
How about putting a Wegmans in that neighborhood? It’s family owned and voted one of top 100 companies to work for!!!!
I do not see how a WalMart in Tupper could do anything but help the town. New jobs, a huge tax payer and someplace to go for many older citizens. I think the town would benefit a great deal from this move.
lARGE STORES DRIVE OUT SMALLER LOCAL SUPPLIERS WHICH YOU NEED FOR EVERY DAY SUPPLY. ESPECIALLY NOW AND IN THE FUTURE, DRIVING WILL BE CURTAILED BY GASOLINE COSTS AND LOCAL MERCHANTS ARE NECESSARY TO SUSTAIN A VILLAGE OR SMALL TOWN. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT FOR LARGER PURCHASES PEOPLE WILL DRIVE FARTHER ANYWAY. WAGES ARE USUALLY SO LOW THAT YOU WILL HAVE IMMIGRANTS TAKING THESE JOBS, SOONER OR LATER. WE HAVE OBSERVED THIS IN WALMART AT QUEENSBURY. IT WOULD BE BETTER TO LOOK FOR SOME OTHER RETILER WHO PLAYS BY THE RULES FOR EMPLOYEES.
NO WAL MARTS PLEASE AND THANK YOU
Please reconsider your wish for a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake. Don’t turn your beautiful Adirondack community and road along the lake into the standard suburban strip mall with the over-sized big box store and huge parking lot and loads of lights. Yes, you deserve decent retail stores and local jobs - but you don’t have to make your town like every other one that has a Wal-Mart. Avoid ending up with a huge empty store when they don’t make enough money and decide to close. People won’t want to vacation in Adirondack towns that look just like the suburbs they left behind. Be smart - look for alternatives. All of our small Adirondack towns face the same problem - but we don’t want to lose our unique identities. There has got to be another way to have jobs and stores without sacrificing our “character”.
WITH OUTRAGEOUS GAS PRICES THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE ELSEWHERE SOUNDS TEFIRRIC!!!
No to Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake. Let us keep this area pristine.
like it or not the needs of people living here can be met with a Walmart store. I vote yes and those people living in tupper need to be guardians of a structure worthy to be built and stand in our beautiful adirondack park.
no
no wal-mart
No No NO….
puts our independant bsiness person out of business.
wal mart should NOT be allowed in adirondack park. the park should continue to support private businesses and smaller companies, not massive franchises who treat their employees poorly.
We vacation in this area and we love the country feeling. A walmart would ruin this. We noticed a McDonalds in Old Forge that had closed. We were happy to see that!! Walmart is not needed aroun here!
No, because there is already a place to get food, a hardwear store and a clothing store. If there is a wal-mart comes those stores will go out of business and the owners will go to work at wal-mart for five dollars on hour!!!!
Wal-mart…what is it one would be trying to accomplish by opposition to a Big Box Store…you’ve talked about preservation and simplicity. Well simplistic can not be an approach to the Adirondack communities survival… we desperately need expansion and open-mindedness. Change needs to be embraced. Quite frankly, communities here are dying, statistics are flat lined and there desperately needs to be growth in our approach to the economic state of the Adirondacks for the people who live and work here…and so visitors can continue to have services when they visit. Any landscape needs money to support projects which improve and protect… granted there needs to be balance… but any opportunity the Adirondack residents have to save money or any work opportunity is a gain to our small economy…so those whose heart and soul is connected to the region can protect and direct, which takes their own sweat, passion and money to survive….Why not Walmart jobs? the current job choices here now are so minimal and they are not high paying with nice benefit packages. The days of a golden parachute from your work effort are gone by…and they didn’t exist in this retreat locale. To view the simpler time meander around the Museum exhibits and remember…that is history… Simpler is not the approach we need, on the contrary surviving here is quite complex.
To talk about the preservation of space for this project is misdirected the building location is unsightly at best and new construction would be an improvement without upset to current landscape or any one’s view. Any ingress and egress of traffic (people) would mean new exposure to current small businesses, gains would be made and should be welcomed…why limit any opportunity for community growth. Can’t you think positive? Residents, both year round and summer, gain convenience. I don’t see this as daunting as has been expressed.
absolutley not! no walmart!!!!
No WalMart
Walmart came into our rural, somewhat remote area about a dozen years ago. They have driven out all local businesses and have not been good for our community.
Fight it!
You need a Wal-Mart like a bear needs a bicycle. You don’t need welfare-level wages, long hours of work and employees who can’t afford to purchase their health care benefits. You don’t need to do business with a corporate behemouth who dictates supply regulations to the suppliers who are trying to provide fair wages and benefits to their employees. Wal-Mart wants to own America and its doing a good job without Tupper Lake. Wal-Mart gets tax exemptions to build huge box stores. Mom and Pop shops get no tax subsidies, pay fair wages and supply benefits to workers.
In my case, I was providing a welfare eye exam to a Wal-Mart employee in my town. The Wal-Mart optometrist at the Wal-Mart in my town would not even provide welfare eye exams to a fellow employee. AND, what is really sad to me, is that the taxes that I and the rest of my employees were paying was going to take care of an employee of the largest corporation in the world. So, I not only took a reduced fee to provide the service to this employee, I was also PAYING, through my taxes, for the health care that I think this huge corporation should be paying for.
Were Wal-Mart buying American goods, made by American workers making a lving wage and receiving benefits, instead of buying junk from China, Viet Nam, Mexico and other countries who allow subsistent wages, then I would be a happy supporter of Wal-Mart. As it is, this corporation is a major pet peeve of mine and it felt good to be able to put this out.
Read “How Wal-Mart is Ruining America (and the rest of the world) and What you Can Do About It” and then YOU decide.
Yes, why not?
NO NO NO
No-
The real danger is too many big box stores. Ideally the number and location would be controlled. The fear is that one such store becomes a slippery slope.
I am definitely opposed to the construction of a Wal-Mart at Tupper Lake
Ticonderoga is not in the wilderness area of Adinondack Park. I applasu Saratoga Lake and lake Placid for keeping the chain out of their Towns. I can’t even imagine a Wal-Mart in the Wilderness area. Please vote against it.
Walmart is a Mom & Pop Shop killer. It will ruin the lovely atmosphere of the Adirondacks
NO! NO I TELL YOU! it will be a huge mistake. like it is shown in South Park, walmart brings no good to a community, only takes away from the culture filled stores already present here in the lovely Adirondacks.
I don’t think having a Wal-mart is good for other businessess. Wal-marts drive prices down which can cause issues for small companies. I dislike Wal-marts.
No it is not ok!!! it will put all the other stires that are trying to have a faire buissness out of buisness….. and i htink there is already all the stores that we need to have the stuff we wan tin tupper, alll over town. there is no need for a big old ugly shopping center like walmart that has everything, but poor quality because it is all so cheap. i dont wanty shaheens to go out of business!!!!!!!! sooooooo NNNNNNOOOOO!!!!! there should not be a walmart in tupper, thankyou very much.
Absolutely not.
no because they are shuting down our local stores.
Their should not be a wal-mart in Tupper Lake… supermarkets and commercial stores belong in the city… let’s not polute the great country anymore than it has to be!!!
No, no, no!
No WalMart in Tupper Lake.
i believe that wal-mart should not be able to just join our society we don’t need another store. We are an old frashoined community and that’s the way we like it. We work our butt’s off paying bills just to live here. We pay taxes and we deserve some respect if we don’t want them here then that’s the way it should be. We hunt in season and we f9ish when we feel like it. We live great lives and walmart can’t improve that! So we say stay away walmart because we don’t want you buin nning our society!!!
The Adirondacks are so beautiful and we don’t want to ruin the view by having another generic store here. It is not that I am against Wal Mart, because we shop at Walmart, but I am just worried that it will take away business from the mon and pop stores in the Adirondack and take away the uniqueness of the Adirondacks. It is a really hard decision because the people who live in the Adirondack have to travel for a long distance to go to Walmart and I am sure that it would be convenient for them to have a Wal Mart close by. It may also provide for more jobs. But I still think that they should not do it. Thanks for the opportunity to express my opinion.
If the local people want a Wal Mart and it would provide for local jobs, I don’t see what is wrong with that. It is not up to me to tell the people in Tupper Lake what to do. I am sure that the local economy could really benefit from a business such as Wal Mart. Thank you.
I think that would be a good idea since it would help the local economy.
I would like them to develop more local businesses since the big corporations give very little back to the local economy. But if they could not develop any local alternatives, then I think it would be ok. It is a really difficult decision to make. Thanks.
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would look ugly and it isn’t needed.
The establishment of a Wal-mart Superstore would deteriorate the beautiful Adirondack Mountains. This should not be permitted.
I do NOT think a Walmart should be build in Tupper Lake (or anywhere else). If residents need places to buy groceries and other necessities, smaller, locally-owned stores should be established to provide jobs and supported by local residents and tourists. Local character, wages and benefits, and the quality of products available will be damaged by having a Walmart. Having Walmart has hurt Ithaca, NY, where I live and I wish one had never been allowed there. I hope residents here will continue to speak out against allowing a Walmart!
YES PEAPLE WILL NOT HAVE TO GO FAR FOR OBJETS
Once another Wal Mart comes in, there is no turning back. With the huge amount of items available for purchase on the internet, having a huge box store nearby is not as crucial.
Keep it out.
Wal-Mart has no place in a spot like the Adirondaks. Vote no.
Absolutely NO! I would also contribute online technology to help others connect to this issue in order to expand the outreach of this vote issue.
NO!
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This is not necessary in the Adirondacks. There are so many other things you could do with this plant. Walmart is NOT a sustainable business. Walmart’s Chief Environmental Officer, Leslie Dach, should get NOT being here. Let me know how we can help. tara@flavoredlayers.com
Please do not let Wal-Mart into this community. I have witnessed the town of Houghton, Michigan have to deal with the vacant retail space that Wal-Mart has left behind once they decided to expand. Secondly, Wal-Mart has eroded the market for local businesses who can’t compete with thousands of products cheaply produced from China.
No, I don’t think the Tupper Lake region needs a Walmart. It might make shopping more convenient in the area, but it would also fuel development in the area and increase habitat destruction.
No Wal-Mart. I’ve been coming to the Adirondacks on and off since a child and love the area. I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart because I disagree with their business practices. They don’t pay a fair wage, and drive down the wages of the employees of their suppliers. We can all afford to pay a living wage for the products we buy.
no to a wal mart here
No way to Wal-Mart! This area is too beautiful and there are enough Wal-Marts around!
And, no more items Made in China!
NO
No! We are facing the same issue in our town too!
nope
I think that Wal-Mart is an amazing store and should be shared with everyone, no matter where or when. It would popularize Tupper Lake, wherever that is, but that is not a bad thing. Wal-Mart is a happy place!
YES I LOVE WAL-MART!!
Tuppers Lake definitely needs a Wal-Mart to survive
Wal-Mart would be a great addition to the community. The store would not only offer goods at very low prices for people struggling during hard times, but would bring in people to shop in small shops that are unique and offer goods that cannot be bought at Wal-mart. With more people driving through the town, more opportunities are created for new small businesses, and to give the town a facelift. The store would also eliminate the eyesore that is currently a plastics factory.
No thank you. I suggest the Mayor of Tupper Lake do some homework. Once the facts of how Wal-Mart works are learned I think minds would change. Wal-Mart is an opportunistic business. Their object is profit, not employee interests, not community interests, not environmental interests. The Adirondacks of all places should be protected from this preditator. Remember, revenues from local businesses flow back into the community -revenues from Wal-Mart flow to Arkansas. Maybe it’s time for a change in local government?
WalMart has an attitude that the lowest price is the only attribute to be considered and quality, service and product origin is immaterial… they hire employees and attract customers that also think that way. Pretty soon the unkept look of the inside of WalMart spreads to the outside and the lack of concern for their surroundings will spread as their like-minded employees and customers gather round. The Adirondack Park was established to preserve the natural surroundings and if WalMart is allowed in it is the beginning of the end for the Adirondacks.
Target it treats its workers better than wal-mart and it sells the same things wal-mart sells go to Target.
I don’t think it belongs in the Adirondacks. Leave nature and the rustic area the way it is. To many companies come and ruin the rustic area and commercialize it. Leave the area rusic. I enjoy coming to this area just for the rustic looks and nature.
I grew up in the adirondaks.Yes!
NO!
It would drive out small and unique businesses in the area which leads to the charm which draws visitors.
We visit here, I thnk Wal-mart would be bad for the area.
No, I definitely don’t want a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake.
The Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake would bring more job opportunities to the area.
No Wal-Mart in Tupper or anywhere else within the blue line….Keep the Adirondacks wild.
A Wal-Mart was built in Watkis Glen, near my home a few years back.
It has nearly destroyed or has destroyed many businesses that have been in our area for many years. They also do not pay taxes like they were supposed to. It was built in a swamp and much was lost.
It is an eyesore and yes there are jobs, most of the local employes of wal mart complain that they make low wages and cannot get health insurance.
Don’t let a walmart come to Tupper Lake, it is a mistake!!!
Dont allow this to happen to Tupper Lake, I have spent many years in the Adirondak Park and I also live in Upstate NY where a Wal-Mart has come in and destroyed the landscape, offered crummy jobs, avoided paying taxes as well as putting our small businesses out one by one.
Wal-Mart should never be allowed to taint this very very special area.
Dont allow this!!!! You will be so sorry.
I think they need one there.
Absolutely no Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake.
NO Walmart in Tupper Lake. It would harm the charm and livihood of the Adirondack Preserve.
no we should keep our country living peacfull
NO
no
If the Wal-Mart is to take the place of the plant, I see little problem with its presence. The major concern would be if it needed to be erected by scratch via major deforestation. I have some heart for small businesses, but the major concern is not helping out some blue collar guy. No, it’s about being provided what you need when you need it, and that’s what a Wal-Mart Supercenter does.
No, Wal-Mart should not be allowed in Tupper Lake, NY. Their presence will destroy an already struggling lifestlye and economy. Looking at Vermont, which did allow the Box Store Home Depot, despite community opposition, to open, now is closed. Stay away, WalMart etc. .
This would help the enconomy a great deal in this area.
Thanks.
Brandee
NO WAY!!! Wal-Mart is the bane of our existence. Keep them out!!!
Unfortunately due to tough economic times, there really is no YES or No. Lets go over both sides. If I said YES, that means there will be a major retail store invading a peaceful Adirondack village. It would probably bring in more revenue for the area. Leading to more jobs for local residents. However, putting a Walmart in the Village of Tupper Lake can also take away from the rustic appeal of the Adirondacks. The more we industrialize the Adirondacks, there someday will not be a place known as the Adirondacks for our future children to visit and explore.
Definetely NO to one more Wal-Mart anywhere. Small local stores are much more neighborhood friendly for all folks.
No
No! wal-mart has no place in the adirondack park. If they brought it up here it would put smaller businesses out of business and ruin the character of the adirondacks.
I cannot believe all of you who visit Adirondacks and think you know what’s best for our Town. To those who think it will affect the “beauty” of this “pristine” area - Have you seen the factory that it would replace? I agree small local stores would be better, but guess what - we don’t have those either. It is not like these folks don’t shop at Wal-mart, they just drive 90 miles to get there.
No, The park shouldn’t allow such a company. What are you thinking. This has to be the worst idea i have ever heard. Will we sell our souls for a few jobs. Wake up people before you know u it we will have Costco and a Home Depot. Better yet a Taco Bell and a Starbucks. Then the park would resemble any other over developed town in the country.
NO NO NO
-When did anyone ask for China to be imported to Tupper Lake?
-wal-mart only wants your money & to leave you with nothing but them to buy from!
-let wal-mart in & its a race to the bottom!
Alright I am so overy sick of hearing about how UGLY a walmart would make this place and how it is going to ruin wildlif and so on…Pople give me a break ook at the OWD “Jarden” what that is not “UGLY” we have already lost that area to the factory..maybe people that live here should think about all the “Teenagers” have kids and not being able to find jobs here. So instead we are paying taxes for them to be on welfare, so yea lets not bring a wal-mart to keep tupper lake in the sorry state its in. You are so greedy those of you that dont want a wal-mart can afford things to spak your mind..gte the lower class on here and I’m sure they will voice a different opinion. I would more than happy to get rid of that old nasty “Jarden” Wal-mart does adhere to environment and would make wal-mart very nice and it would blend well with thee culture here (which is currently crappy) Thanks
If you let Wal-Mart into your town, it will ruin it! All of your local businesses will die out slowly. Look at Antwerp and area small towns losing out to the new Super Wal-Mart in Evans Mills. This is nothing new with them. They don’t care one bit about you. Just the almighty dollar. Just google “The high cost of low prices”. You sheeple need to wake-up!
If you do your research Walmart has also brought many benefits. That Amish H&H store was failing due to poor management skills, the person who bought it after the arrival of Walmart had a higher appraisle value on the property because of the Walmart. Walmart is bad for some areas and great for others.
Tupper Lake (from a local resident) is failing miserably. I have heard from Sarnac Lake’s recent battle that Walmart would hurt Saranac Lake more than help it and this may be the same story for Lake Placid, but not Tupper Lake. Tupper Lake survives in a different setting than Saranc Lake and Lake Placid. Saranac Lake is “the Heart of the Adirondacks” Lake Placid is the place where the Olympics happened. Tupper has nothing. The museum is a great addition to the town, it has employed many people and brings in some tourism, yes, but it does not bring in enough. Tupper Lakes stores keep shutting down, and the local super markets like Shaheen charge too much for the poor residence, Save-A-Lot is their main source of groceries. The plant closing down has hurt many people as far as jobs go, and now Sunmount is on a hiring freeze. The unemployment rate is going up, the local businesses (like the movie theater) are suffering. The arrival of a Walmart will bring nothing but positives. It will get Tupper Lake more recognised in the area, bringing in tourism, it will help the tri-lakes residence by saving them a 40min to an hour trip to the closest one, and will bring needed job openings to the area.
Small grocery stores sell products at outragous prices…and most items are not fresh. We need decent stores in the mountains. I am tired of driving a hour to get things small stores don’t have.
What about price chopper in lake placid?
They did a nice job making that store fit the adirondack image. Have you seen walmarts in other areas like the adirondacks? There very nice. some look like a cabin!! This native is sick of going without!!
I’m sorry, for all of you who are devoted to preserving small, family owned operations, have any of you ever actually been to Tupper Lake? Not exactly a thriving community.
R you crazy?! Forever Wild! Not Forever Walmart!
NO!!! Wal-Mart will kill-off all local retail. The profits the local businesses keep in the community Wal-Mart will send out of town to their stockholders, who do not care a blank about Tupper Lake. Once Wal-Mart is in no new retail businesses will ever start in Tupper. I am sorry that Tupper has suffered since the mid 60’s but they can not build their way out of it, like lumbering, it will damage Tupper then leave. Tupper’s greatest asset is it’s natural beauty in part from it’s economic misfortune and the limited development that caused.
I have always wished Tupper the very best.