Yes or No: Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake 264 comments
Jarden Plastic Solutions plant (formerly Oval Wood Dish), Tupper Lake, 2008
A Wal-Mart — in Tupper Lake, New York? Recent news reports indicate that Tupper Lake’s Mayor has been in contact with the retail chain Wal-Mart asking them to consider locating in the Village of Tupper Lake. This invitation follows the May 2008 closing of Jarden Plastic Solutions’ 15-acre plant that employed 70 people (formerly the home of Oval Wood Dish).
Nigro Companies, a Colonie based developer specializing in shopping centers, has been interested in the property for some time. If Nigro Companies does purchase the plant, Wal-Mart may move in.
There is already a Wal-Mart Superstore is in Ticonderoga, N.Y., inside the Blue Line. Wal-Mart has attempted and failed to locate in the northern part of the Adirondack Park twice. Public opposition kept the large chain out of Lake Placid, N.Y. in 1994 and Saranac Lake, N.Y. in 2006.
Advocates believe a large discount store could serve customers from as far as 40 miles away. Residents of some Adirondack communities currently drive over an hour to places like Plattsburgh, Queensbury and Malone, N.Y. to shop for groceries and other necessities.
Construction and operation of a large store could create new jobs for area residents. Wal-Mart is the largest private employer in the United States, employing roughly 1.4 million people.
Opponents argue that Wal-Mart, or any big-box store, has no place in the Adirondack Park. They are concerned that a large retail store will hurt small main street businesses. In addition, some contend that Wal-Mart fails to provide substantial wages and health care benefits to employees. Many simply see these huge stores as unsightly.
Do you think Wal-Mart should be allowed in Tupper Lake?
Inside the Blue Line is horrible!!!
Be carefull with what you let into your back yard adirondack folk
No, the beauty of the Adirondack Park are the small family run stores and industries that do not mare the landscape.
Tupper dont need no
Wal-Mart.
I do not think you should because it will
1 make the adirondacks not as pretty
2 get less bears and wildlife creatures
3 it will put out alot of small stores out of business
4 it will ruin the adirondacks
1- one store will make the park ugly?
2- less bears, because of one walmart?
(have you been to Tupper Lake?)
3- a lot of small business? ( again have you been to Tupper Lake)
4- ruin the Adirondacks? GET A LIFE PEOPLE ITS ONLY A STORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No because it would hurt local buisnesses,and it just doesn’t look right.
NO, a Walmart in this area would be a detriment to the struggling store and shop owners. It is difficult enough for these merchants to stay in business, why bring in a multi billion dollar corporation?
We have to drive 37 miles to Plattsburgh for major shopping and we are glad to do it to keep our hamlet the way it is.
I say “no” to a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake!!!!!
NO, NO, NO!!!!
They do not belong here in the AdK
I think that they should not build it because they can use the land for a different use.
I dont think that a wal-mart is necessary. The store has its advantages. Wow saving you a few dollars. The store draws other stores into the area which is a plus to some people but to other family owned stores….. its another struggle to stay in business. No to wal-mart for one main reason. Once its built, the development monster has beed started and now won’t be able to be stopped. look at Heidelberg, Pa. once was a small race track for the local piston heads and is now a huge shopping center……. Goodluck. :-/
yes and no but more on the no side because it ruins the adriondacks rustic look
I don’t [think] they should put a Wal-Mart there
I spend my summer vacations in the Adirondacks each year. I would regret the arrival of a “big box” like Walmart. Sprawl is always a bad influence on a community, but it is unthinkable in the Adirondacks. I can’t imagine how much the park would be changed if this awful precedent were allowed.
I think it wouldn’t be so good for a big box store to end up in the Adirondacks. I always consider the Adirondacks to be a place for wilderness rather than development.
Thomas Withiam
age 10
I would rather see smaller merchants and encourage local growth than a big box store with no real local interest.
I think Wal-Mart should be allowed in Tupper lake.
No, we would not favor a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake and the Adirondack Park!
Stop the Walmart spralll
No, it will put all the local businesses out of business. Their livelihoods will be in jeopardy. There are plenty of Walmarts in the bigger cities.
What local business. if you live in tupper it would great not to travil 90 miles with gas over $40
No, Walmart is the root of all evil. First it’s a Walmart, then a McDonalds, then a mini mall, then a super mall. It is just the first in a step of bringing the pollution and corruption of a busy city to the Adirondacks. The Adirondacks is known for it’s natural feel, it’s connections to it’s roots, and it’s unique and interesting towns, museums, and shops. Bringing in this commercialized scum would only ruin it. No.
There actually is a McDonald’s and several “mini-malls” currently in Tupper Lake. I would be in support of a Wal-Mart, or a Target, if it meant not having to drive to Plattsburgh or Malone for major shopping. As wonderful as it is to be a life-long resident of the Adirondacks, it can be rather inconvenient at times. A store in town with more options could be wonderful addition.
no to walmart. they suck the life out of mom & pop shops and then you are trapped into getting only what they offer. mom & pop shops are the heart and soul of the adirondacks and it needs to be left as is. for once in our life, lets let history stay as it is instead of always trying to suburbanize everything. let the wilderness stay as wilderness!!
no they hurt little businesses.
This is an issue for the local citizens to decide. We should not impose our views on them.
There should be no Wal-Marts anywhere!
No, Wal-Mart has no place in this pristene enviroment.
yes,much needed
It is up to the locals to decide what they want for their comminity. Not everyone cares for Wal Mart but then again folks need jobs. Whether it will hurt other businesses is a hard question to answer. But it should be the locals who decie the issue.
yes
NO!
sure that would be beificial for the community but what would be left of the adirondacks after all the stores move in.
NO WAY.
I think the decision has to be made by the year round residents of the park. I don’t think it is fair if summer people impose their wish for a wilderness experience on people who live and work here all year round. For me, I dislike Walmart in any community, but the days of the single, family stores seem to be unrecoverable and we have to be realisitic.
I don’t know. Having grown up in the Adirondacks I know how hard and expensive it is to try to get somewhere to buy the things you need. However, the idea of a Wal-Mart in the Adirondacks is pretty hard to swallow. I wish that there were more jobs of different types to allow more people to work in the area. Especially in the medical fields since to the best of my knowledge Hamilton County still doesn’t have a DOCTOR! Maybe that is the area we should be working toward and jobs would come from that. Any way you look at it the young people need to have jobs to stay here. Otherwise soon we will be a community of only old people and weekend residents.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Walmart would take away from the wonderful beauty of Tupper Lake.
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are already to many Walmarts.
NO!!!!!!! There are some places that just should not have a Walmart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of couse not!!!!!!! No one needs a walmart more than the lake. Think of all the children’s vacations you’d ruin!!!!!!!!
No way walmart takes away from the beauty of Tupper Lake.
I dont think you should build a walmart bacause you will be cutting down animals homes
Walmart does not belong in an area such as Tupper Lake. Let’s keep this area untouched by such a store.
Please keep big box stores, especially Wal-Mart out of the park. The park is supposed to be a place of a simpler time, so don’t ruin it with so called “progess” of having big box stores.
first of all, there is not enough people to support a wal-mart. second of all, if you did build a wal-mart: how many of the people would actually shop there; most people would try to boycot it because the company is disrupting the whole “nature” theme.
I say no.
People may say they will boycott it but they wouldnt there have been several studies to prove this theory. THey may try to go at night so there neighbors dont see them but they will be shopping there….Besides at some of the outrageous prices on items at “local” markets give me a break think about the economy that would be enhanced by this
NO,
Local businesses are a fragile group and cannot withstand the overwhelming competition of a giant like Wal-Mart
Yes. I heard that Wal-Mart can have local store owners sell from inside of Wal-Mart. Local store owners should bargain with them.
NO IF THEY PUT WALMART IN TUPPER LAKE IT WILL TAKE AWAY ANIMAL HABITAT
Wal MArt would serve the needs of the greater community. It would be a worthwhile addition.
No Way!
We should not have a wal mart because workers are paid minimuum wage and there is no health benifits it is a horrible company
No. It is more fun having the smaller stores. People coming up from down from this area can bring what they want from there. Live simply
We need to keep the Adirondacks as clean as possible. Putting a Wal-Mart there will not help.
Don’t put a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because it would take up a lot of space from the animals.
Please don’t build a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because it would not be consistent with the Adirondack Park environment. It would be like putting a Home Depot in Yellowstone - it simply doesn’t belong.
There was the same opposition to Wal-Mart in Watkins Glen NY, Schuyler County because of the stores location on the south end of Seneca Lake. The project was finally approved a few years ago and the store was built. The store has improved business traffic in area mom and pop businesses and stores not closed them. It is also very helpful to the thousands of seasonal residents and tourists who shop in Watkins Glen instead of going to Elmira, Corning and Ithaca when they stay at their cottages. Year round residents find the store helpful in the winter season because they don’t have to travel the icy roads in winter and save money on gas. Schuyler is one of the poorest counties in New York State so any savings are helpful to residents. Go for it Tupper Lake.
Yes, but only if the Wal-Mart doesn’t look like every other Wal-Mart. If the designers of the ‘big box store’ were to design it so that it does not take up as much land and look as awful as most Wal-Marts, it might work. For some, especially now that gas is so expensive, driving the hour to Wal-Mart is too much. Having one close to the center of the Adirondacks could be quite advantageous.
Not a NECESSARY business, hardly even a luxury. Keep the Adirondacks as free of commercialism as possible and continue to espouse small businesses instead.
no please.
Yes we need a wal-mart to buy cheaper stuff! yah
no, because i think that should stay in the city
Yes
No — enough WalMarts already.
Yes Walmart! We need commerce and people need JOBS! especially my husband who was laid off work after over 18 YEARS of service to Jarden Plastics, formerly OWD.
Absolutely not!!!
We have a Wal-Mart in our area and it has brought nothing but negative results. The area is not maintained and has become a real eyesore. Our local police have to respond to calls there almost daily. The argument that Wal-Mart brings jobs is not valid. The jobs they create are very low paying and the employees get exploited. Bringing in WalMart is bad enough, but letting Nigro get a foothold in the area is a fatal mistake. He paves everything in site and has no concern for the envrionment, history, etc. (example, tearing down a 200 year old building that locals wanted saved and moved so he could put in a Target store in East Greenbush.) Stick to your guns - keep them both out. The Adirondacks are far too valuable to all of us.
don’t build a wal mart. they are corrupt. they use cheap labor in asia and give them no money to work with. this also contributes to the measly pay of their employees. they need to stop building them and letting them take over the world. just like in wall-e.
Wal-Mart should never be allowed to open a store in Tupper Lake. Although it may seem ridiculous in today’s modern age, the whole point of the Adirondack Park is to provide a relaxing getaway from the hustle and bustle of the outside world. For all of the year-round inhabitants, Wal-Mart would take away from the local economy and charm. Little businesses thrive in towns like Tupper Lake, and having a gigantic superstore will only hurt their livelihood. For the sake of the wilderness and ambience of the Adirondacks, do not let Wal-Mart come.
heck yes because we need something up here fast other wise we all move out because as time moves on we hold still we also need better cell phone contection…
i think walmart is awesome
Your mayor should read “Nickel and Dimed in America”. In it, he will learn exactly how Walmart treats its employees. DON’T do it. Once the genie is out of the bottle…
no, don’t ruin this beautiful place with a wal-mart.
NO>>>NO>>>NO! Having watched WalMart take over my home area, I am very much against this and for small, local businesses.
No
Please do not ruin the already critical economy by putting in a Wal mart!
We woould love to shop locally but at our current local shops and inns.
Thank you
I think that a walmart store would ruin the population of the awesome animals in this area of living.
so reconsider this question will ya?
its not like your dying of lack of walmart in the area are you?
I dont think so…just drive to the nearest city (Ticonderoga, N.Y for example)
-Thank you :]
Yes, I feel the residents of the Adirondacks need a larger facility to buy food, house supplies and the like.
We have a Wal-Mart in our town and it is killing our downtown. They only want to build new. They are not interested in renovating older existing structures. As far as jobs are concerned they are relatively few in number and low paying in nature. Tell your mayor to think long and hard before he opens this Pandora’s box. I set on the town board that considered the Wal-Mart. You will lose your small town identity to this corpoate giant.
As a landscape architect and planner, I believe current events are showing us that putting our eggs in the ‘one size fits all’ basket has many inherent risks. I think it is far more important to develop new industries that might be based on sustainable resources and new technologies than retail based jobs dependent on the vagaries of the global economy. Also, with higher gas prices it is going to be difficult for local people to afford to indulge in recreational shopping.
What Tupper needs is a good quality grocery store; if Wal-Mart had a model that was a smaller footprint I think it Might be okay. We have to be realistic about meeting the needs of local residents. I just hate to see job creation hung solely on the banner of Wal-Mart.
I dislike Walmart, and don’t like to see them move into any community, but I also would not be able to drive 30+ miles to shop for neccessities. The community needs to decide for themselves. Tupper Lake is their home. The rest of us are just visitors.
Wal Mart has a unfriendly attitude to both host communities and employees. They are not model citizens for a new greener future. We will not patronize such stores and will lament the damage such a venture will do to the small businesses and warm community of Tupper Lake. Good luck in keeping this wart from your shorelines.
No, there shouldn’t be a wal-mart where ever they can put one. It is nice to know that there isn’t always a big store right near you. It makes you feel more alive.
The Adirondack Park should be kept free of “big-box” stores.
There is no need to add comercial material to the adirondaks.
I am not in support of Wal-Mart moving into Tupper Lake however one must consider the employment needs of the community.
YES, LP was stupid not to get it.
NO Wal*Mart in Tupper Lake
yes. This would be a great opportunity to create jobs for residences in tupper lake, to help their economy.
A well designed Wal- Mart would be more attractive than a palstics plant. It wouldprovide the needs of the area and would conserve fuel for many of the residents who would have to drive distances for there needs. More jobs in the area without traveling great distances wouldn’t hurt either.
Absolutely not, THe adirondacks need to stay the way they are. Arn’t we supposed to be preserving The area?
NO!!! The Adirondacks need to be preserved for the wildlife and history they have. It is one of the few places I believe should not be modernized. NO WAL-MART
Wal Mart tends to destroy competition and force suppliers to cut costs beyond responsible operation (in light of the environment and wages)
Avoid such a scenario.
It may be nice to have a wal-Mart to some people if they have never been to one or have and liked it but some people may desegree and not want to have one i think the town should vote on it.
No I do not think that there should be a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because of all of the wildlife. If there is a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake the wildlife populations will decrease and soon our children and their children will never see some of the wildlife that have become extinct. Also if there is a Wal-Mart on Tupper Lake, it will produce even more polution and then even more animal species will become extinct! NO WAL-MART ON TUPPER LAKE!
No, because even though you get your supplies there, it is ruining animals homes. They are selling paper towels and paper. It’s making it hard for animals to live!
No I do not think that there should be a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake because there is already a super Wal -Mart in Ticonderoga
NO, I do not think there should be a Wal Mart in Tupper Lake. It will take away from the small business people. For those looking for employment, the town should be looking to recruit (replace) another industry, not a large retail store. This ( a large retail store) would be counter productive for all in the long run. It may afford some people jobs; only to cost others (the small retailers) their jobs, as well as change the character and integrity inside the blue line
I’ve been visiting Tupper Lake with my family since I was a small child, and one of the things I always appreciated was how much Tupper Lake wasn’t infested with chain markets. If you want Starbucks, and name brand shopping, one can easily get to Lake Placid in a hop a skip and a jump.
I sincerly believe that placing a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake would destroy the pure and natural integrity of the village.
Thank you for taking the people’s feelings on the matter into consideration, and I truly hope you will eventually chose not to allow a Wal-Mart to be placed in Tupper Lake.
Sincerly,
Carolyn Dommreis
No to a Wal-Mart in Tupper Lake! Please leave the area as rustic as it is, and allow the smaller stores already in existence to stay in business.
Please no Wal-Marts here in a “wilderness!” I have seen the city and we do not need its influences here.
there should be because people could have more jobs and opportunities
Walmart stores have gotten more huge. A walmart store in tupper lake would bring a lot of extra traffic to the area. They tend to take away from the quaintness and simplicity that people have come to love in the adirondacks
i think tht walmart shouldnt be in tupper lake because they will become more “new-aged” and we wont be able to se how differnet our past was !!
NO WAL-MART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please do not let Wal-Mart move in. This would really hurt the area more than help it!
no they should keep to there old ways
Spend the time/energy on making a potential walmart something that will work for the environment and the area. That’s the best use of your time.
Absolutely not - it’s a corrupt company who takes advantage of its workers.
NO!
yes
I urge Tupper lake NOT to permit the development of a Wal-Mart. The chain’s tendency towards urban sprawl is incompatible with the Adirondack Park idea. By its very nature Wal-mart encourages sprawl.
JB
YES WE SHOULD HAVE ONE.